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Johnson joked about Treasury being the ‘pro death squad’ during pandemic, Covid inquiry told

At the Covid inquiry Stuart Glassborow, deputy principal private secretary to Boris Johnson during coronavirus, has been giving evidence.

Dermot Keating, counsel for the inquiry, was asking the questions, and he has just asked Glassborow about an entry in Sir Patrick Vallance’s diary in which Vallance, the chief scientific adviser at the time, records Boris Johnson as referring to the Treasury as the “pro death squad”. Johnson reportedly used the phrase in January 2021, when he wanted the Treasury to back him in arguing for an early lifting of lockdown measures.

Johnson was referring to the Treasury being in favour of prioritising the economy in internal debates on lockdown policy.

Glassborow told the inquiry he did not recall that phrase being used.

UPDATE: Reading from Vallance’s diary, Keating said:

There is an entry … at meeting on 25 January 2021 the PM is recorded saying he wants tier 3 March 1, tier 2 April 1 Tier 1 May 1 and nothing by September, and he ends it by saying the team must bring in the pro-death squad from HMT. Do you recall the phraseology by the prime minister referring to HMT as the pro-death squad?

Glassborow replied:

As I say, this I think refers to a meeting from a couple of years ago. I dont recall that specific phrase. I see that this is from Patrick’s notebook. I wouldn’t dispute what he’s recorded, but I don’t recall the phrase at all.

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Government decided to launch ‘eat out to help out’ without scientific advice on potential Covid impact, inquiry told

During his evidence his morning Stuart Glassborow, deputy principal private secretary to Boris Johnson during the pandemic, admitted that the government decided to go ahead with the “eat out to help out” subsidy scheme for restaurants in the summer of 2020 without getting scientific advice on the impact it might have on Covid transmission.

Rishi Sunak, the then chancellor, was personally associated with the scheme, and he was embarrassed by subsequent evidence showing it had led to a rise in the number of people getting Covid.

Glassborow told the inquiry that during July 2020, before the scheme was launched, he and others in No 10 “did become aware that there hadn’t been direct CMO (chief medical officer), CSA (chief scientific adviser), Sage (scientific advisory group for emergencies) analysis on this policy”.

Asked if a decision was taken to persist with the scheme anyway, without scientific advice, Glassborow said:

I can’t speak on behalf of all people who would have had an interest in this. I don’t recall significant representations being made to in some sense revisit the policy – that’s not to say some people didn’t have views one way or another at that time.

Last week the inquiry was told that Prof Chris Whitty, the CMO, called the scheme “eat out to help out the virus”.

Just Stop Oil protesters obstructing traffic near Downing Street were arrested and placed on and around the Cenotaph by police, PA Media reports. PA says:

A mother-of-one lying cuffed on the base of the war memorial told the PA news agency: “They arrested us in the road and we were dragged to the pavement and then back over here.”

One officer said the protesters had been moved to the site “to get them off the road”, adding: “It was for their own safety, obviously it’s quite a busy road.”

These accounts suggest it is wrong to claim that the Just Stop Oil protesters were targeting the Cenotaph. But there have been reports on social media claiming they were, and in response to one of them, Yvette Cooper, the shadow home secretary, said such action was “totally unacceptable”.

Experts dismiss report from IEA thinktank claiming Brexit has not harmed trade with EU

This morning the Daily Express splashed on comments from Kemi Badenoch, the business and trade secretary, welcoming a report from the rightwing Institute of Economic Affairs thinktank about Brexit. Badenoch says the report shows that “contrary to some media reports and many pre-Brexit establishment voices, the data says Brexit has not had a major impact on UK–EU trade” (although the Express splash goes further, claiming the report shows Brexit has “boosted UK trade”).

Experts have dismissed the findings, and particularly the way they were written up in an IEA press release quoting figures purportedly showing EU trade up since 2019 – but only because the numbers in the relevant chart have not been adjusted to take into account the impact of inflation.

(The actual report says Brexit has “not had a major detrimental effect on UK–EU trade”. The IEA press release is headlined “Brexit leaves UK trade unscathed”.)

These are from Jonathan Portes, professor of economics at King’s College London.

Let’s (briefly) take seriously new @iealondon report claiming Brexit hasn’t damaged UK trade. What’s the argument?

Press release said this. But these figures are in nominal (not adjusted for inflation) terms! pic.twitter.com/Pdv8BPBV5x

— Jonathan Portes (@jdportes) November 6, 2023

Here are the inflation-adjusted figures, goods exports have fallen significantly.

IEA argument isn’t that our goods exports have done well since Brexit – even they can’t claim that – it’s that exports outside the EU fell even more than those to the EU. So it’s not Brexit! pic.twitter.com/VoaL3XxAtl

— Jonathan Portes (@jdportes) November 6, 2023

I concluded then – and the vast majority of credible trade economists agree

“So while it’s reasonable to conclude that Brexit has damaged the UK’s trade performance, both the magnitude and the mechanisms remain open to question.”

Nothing in the @iea paper changes that (END)

— Jonathan Portes (@jdportes) November 6, 2023

This is from David Henig, a trade expert and the UK director at the European Centre For International Political Economy thinktank.

This should be a humiliation for a Secretary of State of Trade, to be associated with such shoddy research attempting to deny economic reality. That’s what happens when ideology is more important than actual businesses. pic.twitter.com/MLkuKtzTcP

— David Henig 🇺🇦 (@DavidHenigUK) November 6, 2023

And these are from Anton Spisak, the Brexit expert at the Tony Blair Institute thinktank.

Here are the inflation-adjusted trade data. To claim that Brexit hasn’t had an effect on trade would be to dismiss a) the short-term hit to exports to the EU; b) the more persistent hit to imports from the EU; and c) the overall picture of slow post-Covid recovery in UK trade. pic.twitter.com/oNwU0XOUmB

— Anton Spisak (@AntonSpisak) November 6, 2023

Catherine McBride, author of the report, says she is not to blame for the way the IEA wrote up her findings in its press release.

I don’t do the press releases. I wrote the paper. I suggest you read it before commenting.

I didn’t realise you would take such a strong stance against a paper with only a tiny snippet of knowledge.

— Catherine McBride (@CeeMacBee) November 6, 2023

Johnson joked about Treasury being the ‘pro death squad’ during pandemic, Covid inquiry told

At the Covid inquiry Stuart Glassborow, deputy principal private secretary to Boris Johnson during coronavirus, has been giving evidence.

Dermot Keating, counsel for the inquiry, was asking the questions, and he has just asked Glassborow about an entry in Sir Patrick Vallance’s diary in which Vallance, the chief scientific adviser at the time, records Boris Johnson as referring to the Treasury as the “pro death squad”. Johnson reportedly used the phrase in January 2021, when he wanted the Treasury to back him in arguing for an early lifting of lockdown measures.

Johnson was referring to the Treasury being in favour of prioritising the economy in internal debates on lockdown policy.

Glassborow told the inquiry he did not recall that phrase being used.

UPDATE: Reading from Vallance’s diary, Keating said:

There is an entry … at meeting on 25 January 2021 the PM is recorded saying he wants tier 3 March 1, tier 2 April 1 Tier 1 May 1 and nothing by September, and he ends it by saying the team must bring in the pro-death squad from HMT. Do you recall the phraseology by the prime minister referring to HMT as the pro-death squad?

Glassborow replied:

As I say, this I think refers to a meeting from a couple of years ago. I dont recall that specific phrase. I see that this is from Patrick’s notebook. I wouldn’t dispute what he’s recorded, but I don’t recall the phrase at all.

At least 40 Just Stop Oil protesters arrested after disruption in Whitehall

Ben Quinn

Police have arrested dozens of Just Stop Oil protesters near Downing Street after activists lay down on the road and lined up on pavements along Whitehall.

The action took place around the same time as two Just Stop Oil activists were arrested for criminal damage after the glass on the Rokeby Venus painting in the National Gallery was shattered by a man and a woman.

The painting was originally slashed by suffragettes in 1914. One of those involved on Monday said: “Women did not get the vote by voting; it is time for deeds not words.”

💥 SUFFRAGETTE PAINTING SMASHED

💀 Our government have revealed plans for MORE oil licences, knowing it will kill millions. In response, two supporters of Just Stop Oil smashed the Rokeby Venus — slashed by Mary Richardson in 1914.

⏱ Deeds, not words: pic.twitter.com/Hk0el26QIt

— Just Stop Oil (@JustStop_Oil) November 6, 2023

The Metropolitan police said officers had arrested at least 40 activists who were “slow marching” and that Whitehall was clear after a brief period of traffic being stopped.

The prelude to the arrests on Whitehall was witnessed by the Conservative peer David Frost, who posted this on X.

Whitehall just now. The @metpoliceuk are accompanying a Just Stop Oil demo down the street. I hope they plan to take some firmer action soon.

— David Frost (@DavidGHFrost) November 6, 2023

Protesters hold a Just Stop Oil banner walking in the middle of a road
Just Stop Oil protesters taking part in a walking protest blocking Whitehall this morning. Photograph: Lucy North/PA
Officers arrest protesters sitting in the middle of a road
A Just Stop Oil climate activist being arrested in Whitehall this morning. Photograph: Daniel Leal/AFP/Getty Images
Police officers stand beside Just Stop Oil protesters lying on a pavement
Just Stop Oil protesters lying down in Whitehall. Photograph: Lucy North/PA
Two police officers carry away a woman
A Just Stop Oil protester being removed. Photograph: Lucy North/PA

Almost 100,000 people have signed an online petition organised by the campaigning organisation 38 Degrees saying the government should abandon Suella Braverman’s “cruel” plan to stop charities distributing tents to rough sleepers. (See 9.25am.)

Veronica Hawking, head of campaigns at 38 Degrees, said that for so many people to sign a petition within 48 hours showed why “Suella Braverman and Rishi Sunak must recognise the political cost of this cruelty and scrap these plans”.

No 10 unable to provide evidence to back up Braverman’s claim that rough sleeping is ‘lifestyle choice’

At the Downing Street lobby briefing No 10 was unable to defend Suella Braverman’s claim that rough sleeping is a “lifestyle choice”.

Asked if the government had any evidence to back up this claim, the PM’s spokesperson replied:

The reasons are complex, I think mental health and addiction are drivers of homelessness.

Asked if the prime minister ever gets tired of having to defend Braverman, the spokesperson said:

The prime minister continues to work closely with the home secretary, not least on this issue of protests … and of course on small boats.

The spokesperson also declined to say Rishi Sunak agreed with Braverman’s description of the pro-Palestinian demonstrations as “hate marches”.

This is from David Wilcock from Mail Online.

No10 not offering a lot of love for Suella Braverman today. Won’t back claims that homelessness is ‘lifestyle choice’ and pro-Palestinian demos are ‘hate marches’. ‘The PM continues to work closely with the Home Sec’, says spox when asked if Sunak is tired of defending her.

NEW: No10 not offering a lot of love for Suella Braverman today. Won’t back claims that homelessness is ‘lifestyle choice’ and pro-Palestinian demos are ‘hate marches’. ‘The PM continues to work closely with the Home Sec’, says spox when asked if Sunak is tired of defending her.

— David Wilcock (@DavidTWilcock) November 6, 2023

Metropolitan police say they will use ‘all powers and tactics’ to prevent Armistice Day disruption

Suella Braverman, the home secretary, is holding a meeting today to discuss the proposal for a pro-Palestinian march to go ahead on Armistice Day on Saturday, Rishi Sunak said.

Ministers seem to be actively encouraging the police to initiate the process that would lead to the march being banned. (The Home Office has the final say, but it can only approve a ban if the police ask for one.) Last week the Metropolitian police pointed out that no demonstration is planned for Remembrance Sunday and that the organisers of the march planned for Saturday, Armistice Day, will avoid the area near the Cenotaph where commemorations will take place.

Sunak said:

Remembrance Day is a time for national reflection. It is a time when I know the whole country will come together to pay tribute to those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice to keep us safe. I want to make sure police have our absolute and total backing to clamp down on any acts of criminality, but also to ensure public order.

The Metropolitan police have said they will use “all powers and tactics” at their disposal to prevent disruption, including section 13 of the Public Order Act 1986, which allows the banning of a procession when there is a risk of serious disorder. The Met commander Karen Findlay said:

We fully appreciate the national significance of Armistice Day. Thousands of officers will be deployed in an extensive security operation and we will use all powers and tactics at our disposal to ensure that anyone intent on disrupting it will not succeed.

Treasury did not have estimate for economic impact of lockdown, Covid inquiry hears

Clare Lombardelli, chief economic adviser to the Treasury during coronavirus, told the Covid inquiry that the department did not have an estimate for the cost of lockdown. She said:

I wouldn’t say there was no meaningful modelling. There was a lot of analysis and modelling that happened.

What I would say is there was no estimated cost of a lockdown, if you like. There was no way to basically say a lockdown will cost you X, or indeed a lockdown of this form will cost you X but of a different form will cost you Y …

I think it’s a bit too far to say there was no meaningful modelling done, there was a lot of useful modelling … But there wasn’t was an estimate of, the lockdown will cost X in terms of jobs or economic activity.

Claire Lombardelli
Claire Lombardelli Photograph: Covid inquiry
Rishi Sunak speaking to a worker during a visit to the Bacton Gas Terminal in Norfolk this morning.
Rishi Sunak speaking to a worker during a visit to the Bacton Gas Terminal in Norfolk this morning. Photograph: Joe Gidens/AFP/Getty Images

Sunak says more than 100 British nationals have now been able to leave Gaza

More than 100 British nationals have now been able to leave Gaza, Rishi Sunak said this morning. In his pooled TV interview he said:

We have been very clear and consistent that we support humanitarian pauses, which are there specifically to allow aid to get into Gaza and hostages and foreign nationals to come out. I’m pleased that over 100 British nationals have now been able to leave Gaza thanks to our diplomatic engagement. I spoke to both the Egyptian president and the Israeli prime minister about this specific issue last week.

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